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We have talked about Larsen traps before, but I have never seen one and now that I have found a video I realize that my imagination wasn't even close. Smiley19 

They are much worse than I ever imagined.

/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/game-birds-shooting-season-pheasants-larsen-traps-somerset-animal-aid-a8549001.html

How this is still legal is beyond me. This is clearly animal cruelty.
The fact that it is linked to the game bird shooting industry only makes it worse.
How is it legal to raise birds so they can be shot for so called sport?
How do these people consider themselves hunters.

There are too many shameful things going on. Something needs to be done to stop this.
Yes, truly appalling - and the worst of it is that this is all legal (provided the birds are killed within 24 hours). Whilst the royal family and other "big" people support this so-called sport, the chances of getting it banned are, sadly, remote.

Articles like the one you cited, Catherine, are good at raising public awareness of the issue. The "Independent" has some good articles.
I deliberately go out hunting them down and squashing them. After of course letting any trapped bird I find go free.

My territory -for quite a sizeable distance -appears free of them now (for the moment) I do not actually care what "laws" I break in the process. I am sneaky and very fast on my feet and there hasn't been one "gamekeeper" yet who could keep up with me. (and Misty in the old days.) I am also liable to go out at ungodly hours.
I won't tolerate those traps. They are heartbreakingly cruel.
LPC, you are right. As long as big name people support the hunts they will not be banned. 
If Larsen traps are considered part of the hunt they will not be banned.

I thought about you out there breaking the traps while I watched the video. I am glad you have been doing that. The traps shouldn't be legal so who cares if you break laws to free the birds.  I hope you break the traps so they can't be repaired

I wonder who actually manufactures the traps. Surely we could target them with complaints.

Maybe there are none in your area because they are hard to replace and you have broken every one. We can hope.
(09-25-2018, 08:27 AM)Tobi Wrote: [ -> ]My territory - for quite a sizeable distance - appears free of them now (for the moment). I do not actually care what "laws" I break in the process. I am sneaky and very fast on my feet and there hasn't been one "gamekeeper" yet who could keep up with me. (and Misty in the old days.) I am also liable to go out at ungodly hours.
I won't tolerate those traps. They are heartbreakingly cruel.

Tobi, you are following another, much more important law: the law of compassion. That overrides everything. Without compassion we are empty shells.
(09-25-2018, 08:08 PM)LPC Wrote: [ -> ]Tobi, you are following another, much more important law: the law of compassion. That overrides everything. Without compassion we are empty shells.
I feel very sorry for those people who set those traps without any worry....or who do other cruel acts to animals. I am honestly so sorry for them, for they have no Heart. I ask that their Hearts will come back to them.
Quote:Tobi, you are following another, much more important law: the law of compassion. That overrides everything. Without compassion we are empty shells.
This says it all. If we live without caring for other living beings we are only half alive.

Quote:I feel very sorry for those people who set those traps without any worry....or who do other cruel acts to animals. I am honestly so sorry for them, for they have no Heart. I ask that their Hearts will come back to them.
I am not so sure I feel that much compassion for animal abusers. I find myself wishing they would learn what it is like to be treated badly. Can I at least hope that they have dreams about being caught in a Larsen Trap. I hope something wakes them up to the truth. Something will have to shock them if they are going to change.
I don't know if it's "compassion" that I feel for them. I don't know. I just feel so horribly sorry because they don't know what love feels like. I would honestly like them to know what love feels like because they would not turn back from it when they had known it.

You are right. A shock of some kind has potential to change peoples' ways. But love, to a Heart that has even a small opening in it, can often change a life profoundly.
Sometimes when people suffer, they don't link it to what they have done. They just feel sorry for themselves that they are suffering, and that gets them nowhere. It doesn't always change their Hearts.
Quote: You are right. A shock of some kind has potential to change peoples' ways. But love, to a Heart that has even a small opening in it, can often change a life profoundly.
Sometimes when people suffer, they don't link it to what they have done. They just feel sorry for themselves that they are suffering, and that gets them nowhere. It doesn't always change their Hearts.
You are right. Too often I meet people who are suffering the consequences of their own actions, but they never make the connection. They are upset that life has been unfair to them. Life hasn't been unfair and who said life was fair anyhow.

You are right that they lack love. A loving person would not commit an act of cruelty to another, even a bird they consider a pest. A loving person would recognize that the bird just wants to live. The whole idea of raising birds just to shoot them seems kind of sick anyhow. Why don't they raise birds to repopulate areas that have been depleted by hunting. That would be an amazing thing. They could go out into the fields and celebrate releasing the birds and then enjoy watching them find new lives in the wild.
They could even put  trackers on the birds so they could follow them. You get to kill a bird once, but you could follow it for years.
Imagine the feeling of seeing your bird with its own babies born in the wild. That has got to feel better than hunting and killing.
Totally against type of trapping,hunting and shooting I can't honestly see what people get out of any of it.
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